Wahkeenah 02:41, 5 November 2005 (UTC) Precisely. In any case, technically, these are cartoon characters, not human beings. It would be like calling Mickey Mouse a Christian just because he made a cartoon about Christmas. Amcaja 12:32, 4 November 2005 (UTC) Unless she is specifically and consistently playing an ethnic character, calling her a Jewish character is overstating things. unless there's more than one cartoon to back it up. But please don't change the first sentence to read, "Betty Boop is a Jewish cartoon character. Might even elaborate on the Fleischers being Jewish. That said, I haven't yet read the links mentioned above, and I have no problem with someone adding a line to the article saying that "In 'Minnie the Moocher', Betty is depicted as a Jewish immigrant" or whatever. It's the same mentality that periodically has someone add "Dumas" to the Daffy Duck page as his middle name, based simply on a one-off gag. Trying to find "canon" in short-subject cartoons from this era is a losing proposal. Boop, - Infrogmation 04:33, 4 November 2005 (UTC) I agree with Infrogmation. "Minnie" may be a better than average Betty Boop cartoon, but I see no reason to assume that the Betty Boop in this cartoon is somehow more the "real Betty" than that in the other cartoons. In various other cartoons from the era she is portrayed as a cabaret dancer, a race-car driver, a Queen, a chess-piece, a Kansas farm-girl. but I don't see that this one cartoon makes Betty a "Jewish" character. If someone says in "Minnie" the parents are specifically Yiddish rather than generic MittleEuropean, I'll provisionally take your word for it. So I'll confine my comments to here, and stay out of any pending edit wars. (As for sources for the rest of the article, I'll try to add them once I get my animation books out of storage.) Amcaja 14:28, 14 October 2005 (UTC) The most obvious question to ask is, "Why does it matter? Who cares?" Maybe somebody thinks it's important. I'd just want to make sure the information was sourced. At any rate, it's probably not out of line to mention this line of thinking in the article and to talk about "Minnie the Moocher". Unfortunately, it's protected by "Project Muse", which stymies pretty much 75% of Google Scholar searches I do. There's an article on this very question here. Similarly, is there very much of Betty Boop's humor that centers on her being (maybe) Jewish? Or not? Of course, technically, Betty is not anything religious, because she's only a cartoon character. But Jerry Seinfeld does not rely a lot on Jewish ethnic humor, right? So is he still a "Jewish comedian"? I might make the same argument about George Burns, who was Jewish and married an Irish woman, Gracie Allen, but I don't think much of their act centered on ethnicity as such. Fran Drescher also milks her ethnicity for her act. It's like, Myron Cohen was a Jewish comedian, he told lots of ethnic Jewish stories and jokes. I'm thinking that even if she was initially portrayed as Jewish, unless something was made of that, it doesn't really belong in the article.I always thought of her being east european. It's not all too much of a surprise, since the Fleischer brothers were Jewish. Her mother and father both speak Yiddish in the short.
How, specifically? Wahkeenah 00:15, 15 September 2005 (UTC) She was portrayed as a German-American Jew In "Minnie the Moocher," her parents are portrayed as being outwardly Jewish. Amcaja 13:23, 13 September 2005 (UTC) She was portrayed as Jewish in "Minnie the Moocher". However, if someone finds a published source that argues her ethnicity (there are lots of analyses of old cartoons these days), that might be worth mentioning. Since Betty was apparently protective of her virginity, that would tilt the scales toward the Italian, si? Wahkeenah 02:45, 13 September 2005 (UTC) Unless we can find a cartoon or Fleischer memo or something that says Betty is Jewish or Italian or Hungarian or whatever, I think it's best to assert no particular ethnicity/religion for her in the article. However, there is one possible clue, in this old joke: Q - What's the difference between a Jewish girl and a Catholic girl? A - Catholic girls don't believe in sex before marriage, and Jewish girls don't believe in sex after marriage. With a nondescript last name, and a New York accented voice, it's a bit hard to tell what she really was, other than a generic 1920s "flapper" girl.
I was always under the impression, for reasons I am uncertain about, that she was Italian. I have seen websites that assert Betty was Jewish.
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